1 00:00:20,228 --> 00:00:22,188 Hi, I'm Marissa. 2 00:00:22,230 --> 00:00:24,983 I'm here to pick up my son, Milo. 3 00:00:25,025 --> 00:00:27,110 I think you've got the wrong house. 4 00:00:27,152 --> 00:00:28,820 There's no Milo here. 5 00:00:28,862 --> 00:00:30,905 Oh. Uh, I'm sorry. 6 00:00:30,947 --> 00:00:32,699 Let me--let me just check. 7 00:00:32,741 --> 00:00:35,744 This is--hang on. 8 00:00:38,580 --> 00:00:41,249 "The address is 1800 Crescent Hollow Road. 9 00:00:41,291 --> 00:00:42,792 "If I'm not home from work when you get there, 10 00:00:42,834 --> 00:00:45,795 my nanny will be there with the boys." 11 00:00:45,837 --> 00:00:47,922 This isn't--this isn't 1800? 12 00:00:47,964 --> 00:00:49,674 It is, but there's no Milo here. 13 00:00:49,716 --> 00:00:51,718 It's just me, all by my lonesome. 14 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:53,178 Who sent you the text? 15 00:00:53,219 --> 00:00:56,890 Uh, a mom from the school, Jenny. 16 00:00:56,931 --> 00:00:59,726 Milo's on a playdate with her son, Jacob, and this-- 17 00:00:59,768 --> 00:01:03,104 this is where I'm supposed to pick him up. 18 00:01:03,146 --> 00:01:04,481 I'm not crazy, right? 19 00:01:04,522 --> 00:01:06,566 That--that's this address. 20 00:01:06,608 --> 00:01:07,859 It is. 21 00:01:07,901 --> 00:01:09,736 Should you give her a call? 22 00:01:09,778 --> 00:01:12,614 Yeah, yeah. 23 00:01:15,867 --> 00:01:17,952 We're sorry. You have reached a number-- 24 00:01:17,994 --> 00:01:20,288 It's not working. 25 00:01:20,330 --> 00:01:21,748 The number isn't working. 26 00:01:23,041 --> 00:01:24,959 Come on in. We'll figure it out together. 27 00:01:25,001 --> 00:01:27,420 - You have reached a number-- - Thank you. 28 00:01:27,462 --> 00:01:30,590 Or is no longer in service. 29 00:01:30,632 --> 00:01:32,550 Why would her number not be working? 30 00:01:32,592 --> 00:01:34,594 Well, could she have gotten a new one? 31 00:01:34,636 --> 00:01:37,597 Yeah, maybe, but I just-- I can't-- 32 00:01:37,639 --> 00:01:39,641 "The address is 1800 Crescent Hollow Road. 33 00:01:39,683 --> 00:01:41,559 "If I'm not home from work when you get there, 34 00:01:41,601 --> 00:01:43,520 "my nanny will be there with the boys. 35 00:01:43,561 --> 00:01:45,772 Jenny." 36 00:01:45,814 --> 00:01:48,358 How could she send me the wrong address? 37 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:49,526 I don't know. 38 00:01:49,567 --> 00:01:51,611 Have you been to her home before? 39 00:01:51,653 --> 00:01:53,196 No, no. 40 00:01:53,238 --> 00:01:55,407 No, this is Milo's first playdate with Jacob. 41 00:01:55,448 --> 00:01:56,449 He's only five. 42 00:01:56,491 --> 00:01:58,410 This is-- he's just started school. 43 00:01:58,451 --> 00:01:59,703 But you know this Jenny? 44 00:01:59,744 --> 00:02:00,787 Yeah. 45 00:02:00,829 --> 00:02:01,996 Yeah, we met at the school social. 46 00:02:02,038 --> 00:02:02,997 She was great. 47 00:02:03,039 --> 00:02:05,000 She--autocorrect. 48 00:02:05,041 --> 00:02:07,794 That's why--that's why the address is wrong. 49 00:02:07,836 --> 00:02:10,171 That makes sense. 50 00:02:10,213 --> 00:02:11,464 Drives us all nuts. 51 00:02:11,506 --> 00:02:12,716 I just have to get the right address, 52 00:02:12,757 --> 00:02:14,342 and then I'll get out of your house. 53 00:02:14,384 --> 00:02:17,137 Uh, here, let me try-- 54 00:02:17,178 --> 00:02:18,513 we have a nanny as well, 55 00:02:18,555 --> 00:02:21,182 and she might have another number for Jenny. 56 00:02:21,224 --> 00:02:22,308 Is there any chance your nanny 57 00:02:22,350 --> 00:02:24,269 could have picked up your son? 58 00:02:24,310 --> 00:02:27,272 No, she's away for a few days, so it's, uh-- 59 00:02:30,150 --> 00:02:31,860 She's not answering. 60 00:02:31,901 --> 00:02:33,695 Do you have the numbers for the other parents in the class? 61 00:02:33,737 --> 00:02:35,822 Could you call one of them, and-- 62 00:02:35,864 --> 00:02:37,907 Yes! Yeah, yes. 63 00:02:37,949 --> 00:02:40,285 Great idea. Uh... 64 00:02:44,539 --> 00:02:45,999 Well done! 65 00:02:52,088 --> 00:02:53,882 Marissa, how are you? 66 00:02:53,923 --> 00:02:55,842 Hi. Sarah, hi. 67 00:02:55,884 --> 00:02:57,927 Do you have a number for Jenny Kaminski? 68 00:02:57,969 --> 00:03:00,013 Milo is on a playdate with her son, Jacob, 69 00:03:00,055 --> 00:03:02,849 and somehow Jenny has sent me the wrong address, 70 00:03:02,891 --> 00:03:05,518 and the number I have for her isn't working now, 71 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:07,854 so I have no idea where to pick up Milo. 72 00:03:07,896 --> 00:03:10,106 Yeah. 73 00:03:11,733 --> 00:03:13,109 Sarah? 74 00:03:13,151 --> 00:03:15,820 Sarah? Are you there, Sarah? 75 00:03:15,862 --> 00:03:18,365 Have you got your dates mixed up? 76 00:03:20,075 --> 00:03:21,910 No. No, it's today. 77 00:03:21,951 --> 00:03:23,870 I'm sure of it. 78 00:03:23,912 --> 00:03:26,539 Milo can't be on a playdate with Jacob, 79 00:03:26,581 --> 00:03:29,501 because Jacob is here with me right now. 80 00:03:32,170 --> 00:03:36,216 Uh... 81 00:03:36,257 --> 00:03:40,345 uh... 82 00:03:40,387 --> 00:03:41,805 can you-- 83 00:03:41,846 --> 00:03:43,723 Hello. 84 00:03:43,765 --> 00:03:46,059 My name is Esther, and I'm here with your friend. 85 00:03:46,101 --> 00:03:49,562 Now, do you have the right number for this woman, Jenny? 86 00:03:49,604 --> 00:03:50,897 Yeah, I mean, I can-- 87 00:03:50,939 --> 00:03:52,899 I can send through the parent contact list again. 88 00:03:52,941 --> 00:03:54,859 I mean, Marissa should already have that, but-- 89 00:03:54,901 --> 00:03:57,237 Oh, please do, thank you. We'll give her a call. 90 00:03:57,278 --> 00:03:59,155 But Jenny's little boy is with you? 91 00:03:59,197 --> 00:04:00,407 You sure about that? 92 00:04:00,448 --> 00:04:01,741 Yeah, I'm the parent representative 93 00:04:01,783 --> 00:04:03,368 at the school, so I know all of the moms 94 00:04:03,410 --> 00:04:04,953 and all of the kids. 95 00:04:04,994 --> 00:04:09,791 And I am definitely looking at Jenny's boy Jacob right now. 96 00:04:09,833 --> 00:04:12,085 OK, there, I just sent it through. 97 00:04:12,127 --> 00:04:14,170 Um, you should-- 98 00:04:14,212 --> 00:04:15,797 - Yeah, we got it. - OK. 99 00:04:15,839 --> 00:04:17,257 - Thank you, Sarah. - OK. 100 00:04:20,844 --> 00:04:22,595 Would you like me to call Jenny for you? 101 00:04:22,637 --> 00:04:25,181 Uh, yeah, thanks. 102 00:04:25,223 --> 00:04:26,224 Yeah. 103 00:04:35,859 --> 00:04:37,318 - Hello? - Hello, Jenny. 104 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:38,486 You don't know me, but I'm here 105 00:04:38,528 --> 00:04:39,696 with your friend, Marissa. 106 00:04:39,738 --> 00:04:40,989 Hi, this is Jenny. Yeah. 107 00:04:41,031 --> 00:04:42,115 Is everything all right? 108 00:04:42,157 --> 00:04:43,825 Well, Marissa thought her son was 109 00:04:43,867 --> 00:04:45,452 at your house today, but there seems to be 110 00:04:45,493 --> 00:04:46,661 some kind of confusion on that. 111 00:04:46,703 --> 00:04:47,954 Oh, no, I'm working tonight. 112 00:04:47,996 --> 00:04:50,457 Jacob's at Sarah Larsen's for a playdate. 113 00:04:50,498 --> 00:04:52,292 So Milo isn't with you? 114 00:04:52,334 --> 00:04:54,252 No, he isn't. 115 00:04:54,294 --> 00:04:55,462 OK, so-- 116 00:04:55,503 --> 00:04:56,588 No, you sent me a message! 117 00:04:56,629 --> 00:04:57,797 Hi--hi, Marissa. 118 00:04:57,839 --> 00:04:59,424 No, I'm so sorry, but I didn't. 119 00:04:59,466 --> 00:05:01,760 It's on my phone. I'm--I'm not crazy. 120 00:05:01,801 --> 00:05:03,345 It's on my phone. You sent me a text. 121 00:05:03,386 --> 00:05:05,305 I promise I didn't. 122 00:05:05,347 --> 00:05:06,514 Is Milo OK? 123 00:05:06,556 --> 00:05:07,640 I'm sure he's fine. 124 00:05:07,682 --> 00:05:08,975 We'll figure it out. 125 00:05:09,017 --> 00:05:11,728 Thank you, Jenny. 126 00:05:11,770 --> 00:05:15,815 Who sent me that text? 127 00:05:15,857 --> 00:05:17,942 Oh, he's got a-- he's got a tracker. 128 00:05:17,984 --> 00:05:20,362 He's got a--he's got a-- 129 00:05:23,281 --> 00:05:24,991 It's offline. What? 130 00:05:25,033 --> 00:05:26,993 Uh--uh-- 131 00:05:30,622 --> 00:05:32,791 You've reached Peter Irvine. Please leave a message. 132 00:05:32,832 --> 00:05:34,209 Peter, can you call me back? 133 00:05:34,250 --> 00:05:35,460 Right now, please. 134 00:05:35,502 --> 00:05:37,003 Right--right now. 135 00:05:37,045 --> 00:05:38,421 That's your husband? 136 00:05:38,463 --> 00:05:39,714 Could he have picked up your son, 137 00:05:39,756 --> 00:05:41,383 maybe forgetting to tell you? 138 00:05:41,424 --> 00:05:42,801 No, he, uh-- he doesn't do that. 139 00:05:42,842 --> 00:05:45,679 It's--it's our-- it's our nanny or it's me. 140 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:47,639 He doesn't ever pick up Milo from school. 141 00:05:47,681 --> 00:05:49,265 Could your son still be at school? 142 00:05:49,307 --> 00:05:51,101 No. No, it's past 5:00. 143 00:05:51,142 --> 00:05:52,310 School is closed. 144 00:05:52,352 --> 00:05:54,479 So there's no way he could still be there? 145 00:05:54,521 --> 00:05:55,897 No, they would have called me. 146 00:05:55,939 --> 00:05:57,732 If no one picked him up, they would have-- 147 00:06:00,193 --> 00:06:04,572 So someone has picked him up. 148 00:06:05,782 --> 00:06:08,201 Who picked up my son from school? 149 00:06:10,203 --> 00:06:11,621 Peter. - Hey. 150 00:06:11,663 --> 00:06:13,206 Is he that worked up about pizza tonight, 151 00:06:13,248 --> 00:06:15,041 or is he still convinced I'm gonna screw up his order? 152 00:06:15,083 --> 00:06:18,044 Because, you know, I know I'm just a dumb dad and all, 153 00:06:18,086 --> 00:06:20,588 but I think I can remember cheese. 154 00:06:20,630 --> 00:06:22,382 Peter, is he with you? 155 00:06:22,424 --> 00:06:23,675 What? No. 156 00:06:23,717 --> 00:06:25,468 No, he's with you. 157 00:06:25,510 --> 00:06:27,220 He's not. He's--he's not. 158 00:06:27,262 --> 00:06:29,139 He's not. He's not with me. 159 00:06:29,180 --> 00:06:32,058 OK, what do you mean, he's not with you? 160 00:06:32,100 --> 00:06:33,977 Where is he? 161 00:06:34,019 --> 00:06:35,562 Marissa? 162 00:06:35,603 --> 00:06:37,689 Marissa, hey. 163 00:06:37,731 --> 00:06:39,524 I don't know where my son is. 164 00:06:39,566 --> 00:06:42,235 Can you hear me? Marissa! 165 00:06:53,496 --> 00:06:55,165 I'm sure he'll be there. 166 00:06:55,206 --> 00:06:58,418 Someone will have taken him to your home. 167 00:07:34,287 --> 00:07:36,247 Milo! 168 00:07:36,289 --> 00:07:37,665 Milo! 169 00:07:42,170 --> 00:07:43,296 Milo! 170 00:07:47,926 --> 00:07:49,552 Milo! 171 00:07:49,594 --> 00:07:50,887 Are you here? 172 00:07:53,473 --> 00:07:55,058 Please say you're hiding. 173 00:07:58,603 --> 00:08:01,314 Milo! 174 00:08:01,356 --> 00:08:03,108 Sweetheart, are you hiding? 175 00:08:06,236 --> 00:08:08,446 Milo! 176 00:08:19,666 --> 00:08:21,626 Milo! 177 00:08:26,214 --> 00:08:28,216 Brian! 178 00:08:28,258 --> 00:08:30,176 Brian! 179 00:08:30,218 --> 00:08:32,345 Brian! 180 00:08:32,387 --> 00:08:34,180 Open up! 181 00:08:34,222 --> 00:08:35,348 Brian! 182 00:08:35,390 --> 00:08:36,891 Where's Milo? Is he here? Is he with you? 183 00:08:36,933 --> 00:08:38,518 Is everything OK? Is he all right? 184 00:08:38,560 --> 00:08:39,728 No, he isn't-- he's not all right. 185 00:08:39,769 --> 00:08:41,021 He's not all right. - What happened? 186 00:08:41,062 --> 00:08:42,230 What's going on? 187 00:08:42,272 --> 00:08:43,231 He's not--he's not-- he's not all right! 188 00:08:43,273 --> 00:08:45,025 No, he's not all right! 189 00:08:47,986 --> 00:08:50,363 - Is he here? - Peter! 190 00:08:50,405 --> 00:08:52,198 No, he's--no! 191 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:53,533 - OK. - He's-- 192 00:08:53,575 --> 00:08:55,285 OK. All right. We're gonna find him. 193 00:08:55,326 --> 00:08:57,037 I promise, OK? 194 00:08:57,078 --> 00:08:59,497 We'll find him. OK. OK. 195 00:08:59,539 --> 00:09:01,374 OK. OK. 196 00:09:01,416 --> 00:09:02,751 We'll find him. I promise. 197 00:09:19,768 --> 00:09:22,187 Can you tell us the last time you saw your son? 198 00:09:22,228 --> 00:09:26,149 Uh, yeah, it was this morning. 199 00:09:26,191 --> 00:09:28,902 I dropped him at school before work. 200 00:09:28,943 --> 00:09:32,072 I think we left about 7:45. 201 00:09:32,113 --> 00:09:34,991 Did you walk him inside the building? 202 00:09:35,033 --> 00:09:37,535 No, there's a drop-off area in front of the school. 203 00:09:39,954 --> 00:09:41,790 There you go, Milo bear. 204 00:09:41,831 --> 00:09:44,793 Remember, pizza night tonight. 205 00:09:44,834 --> 00:09:46,670 Hi, Milo. Ready for school? 206 00:09:46,711 --> 00:09:48,171 Bye, Mommy. 207 00:09:48,213 --> 00:09:50,131 - OK, take my hand. - Bye, sweetheart. 208 00:09:51,966 --> 00:09:53,677 What's the name of the school? 209 00:09:53,718 --> 00:09:56,471 Bishops Academy. 210 00:09:56,513 --> 00:09:58,807 And your son's teacher? 211 00:09:58,848 --> 00:10:01,267 - Uh-- - Mr. Williams. 212 00:10:01,309 --> 00:10:03,436 We don't have his personal number. 213 00:10:03,478 --> 00:10:04,688 They're not given out. 214 00:10:04,729 --> 00:10:05,939 And the school is closed right now, 215 00:10:05,980 --> 00:10:08,316 so I don't know how to get ahold of him. 216 00:10:08,358 --> 00:10:10,360 We'll find Mr. Williams. 217 00:10:10,402 --> 00:10:12,529 Now, you said your son had a tracker in his backpack. 218 00:10:12,570 --> 00:10:14,030 Yeah. 219 00:10:14,072 --> 00:10:17,575 It's, uh--it's-- it's offline now, though. 220 00:10:17,617 --> 00:10:18,743 OK. 221 00:10:18,785 --> 00:10:20,286 Can you describe your son? 222 00:10:20,328 --> 00:10:22,706 He's blond. 223 00:10:22,747 --> 00:10:24,791 His hair is long. 224 00:10:24,833 --> 00:10:29,629 His bangs--bangs are long. 225 00:10:29,671 --> 00:10:31,798 He just likes it that way. - Uh-huh. 226 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:34,426 Does he have any other distinguishing features, 227 00:10:34,467 --> 00:10:35,552 aside from the long hair? 228 00:10:35,593 --> 00:10:36,886 Uh, no. 229 00:10:36,928 --> 00:10:38,388 - No. - No. 230 00:10:38,430 --> 00:10:41,266 And what was he wearing this morning? 231 00:10:41,307 --> 00:10:43,143 An orange shirt and blue pants. 232 00:10:43,184 --> 00:10:45,770 And his coat, which is mostly green, 233 00:10:45,812 --> 00:10:47,063 and it's got a little-- 234 00:10:47,105 --> 00:10:49,065 it's got a little dinosaur here. 235 00:10:49,107 --> 00:10:50,400 Is your son on any medication, 236 00:10:50,442 --> 00:10:52,652 or does he have any allergies or illnesses 237 00:10:52,694 --> 00:10:53,611 or anything like that? 238 00:10:53,653 --> 00:10:55,321 No, no. 239 00:10:55,363 --> 00:10:56,823 Allergies, I mean-- 240 00:10:56,865 --> 00:10:59,242 Oh, yeah, I'm severely allergic to soy, 241 00:10:59,284 --> 00:11:02,746 so we look out for Milo with that stuff, 242 00:11:02,787 --> 00:11:04,164 but he seems to be fine. 243 00:11:04,205 --> 00:11:08,293 And who usually picks up your son from school? 244 00:11:08,335 --> 00:11:12,839 Our nanny, Ana Garcia. 245 00:11:12,881 --> 00:11:14,758 We've called her, but she's not answering. 246 00:11:14,799 --> 00:11:16,593 How did you meet Ms. Garcia? 247 00:11:16,634 --> 00:11:19,512 Through a website, a nanny service. 248 00:11:19,554 --> 00:11:21,431 All the moms use it. 249 00:11:21,473 --> 00:11:23,516 Did she have references? 250 00:11:23,558 --> 00:11:24,851 Yeah. 251 00:11:24,893 --> 00:11:28,438 I mean, the nanny service vets all that, 252 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:30,482 criminal checks, everything. 253 00:11:30,523 --> 00:11:32,150 She's fantastic with Milo. 254 00:11:32,192 --> 00:11:34,861 I just--I wouldn't leave my son with just anyone. 255 00:11:38,406 --> 00:11:41,493 That's work. That's--it's nothing. 256 00:11:41,534 --> 00:11:43,536 It's--it's nothing. 257 00:11:47,248 --> 00:11:49,167 What is it that you do for a living, ma'am? 258 00:11:49,209 --> 00:11:51,002 I'm in wealth management. 259 00:11:51,044 --> 00:11:52,170 I have my own firm. 260 00:11:52,212 --> 00:11:53,797 And Peter's in-- in commodities. 261 00:11:53,838 --> 00:11:55,048 Commodities. 262 00:11:55,090 --> 00:11:56,591 What else can you tell us about your nanny? 263 00:11:56,633 --> 00:11:58,927 She's from Chile. She's been here about a year. 264 00:11:58,968 --> 00:12:01,221 She's got a studio in Thornton with her boyfriend. 265 00:12:01,262 --> 00:12:03,890 They're driving down to Fort Wayne this weekend. 266 00:12:03,932 --> 00:12:05,517 His cousin is getting married. 267 00:12:07,602 --> 00:12:08,728 Found the teacher. 268 00:12:08,770 --> 00:12:10,230 He's not picking up his cell. 269 00:12:12,065 --> 00:12:14,317 We'll keep trying. 270 00:12:14,359 --> 00:12:15,985 Now, your understanding was that Milo 271 00:12:16,027 --> 00:12:17,904 was supposed to be on a playdate today, 272 00:12:17,946 --> 00:12:19,406 is that correct? 273 00:12:19,447 --> 00:12:20,782 Yeah. 274 00:12:20,824 --> 00:12:22,450 And how was that playdate arranged? 275 00:12:24,786 --> 00:12:27,205 Uh, I received a text 276 00:12:27,247 --> 00:12:30,917 from one of the moms, Jenny Kaminski. 277 00:12:30,959 --> 00:12:33,586 She was wondering if Milo wanted to play 278 00:12:33,628 --> 00:12:36,673 with her son, Jacob, and, uh-- 279 00:12:38,675 --> 00:12:40,010 I didn't have Ana to help, 280 00:12:40,051 --> 00:12:43,346 and I didn't want to cancel a meeting at work. 281 00:12:43,388 --> 00:12:47,434 And so I-- 282 00:12:47,475 --> 00:12:49,102 yeah, it was perfect. 283 00:12:49,144 --> 00:12:50,937 How well do you know Ms. Kaminski? 284 00:12:50,979 --> 00:12:52,355 She's one of the moms from school. 285 00:12:52,397 --> 00:12:55,608 And I--you know, I've seen her around a lot, 286 00:12:55,650 --> 00:12:57,318 but I haven't spoken to her 287 00:12:57,360 --> 00:12:59,571 until about a week and a half ago 288 00:12:59,612 --> 00:13:01,406 at the school social, and she was great. 289 00:13:01,448 --> 00:13:04,117 She seemed-- yeah, she was great. 290 00:13:04,159 --> 00:13:05,952 Have you been to her home before? 291 00:13:07,954 --> 00:13:09,205 - No. - Have you and Ms. Kaminski 292 00:13:09,247 --> 00:13:11,332 corresponded through text before? 293 00:13:11,374 --> 00:13:12,792 No. 294 00:13:12,834 --> 00:13:14,085 Did you have a contact for Ms. Kaminski 295 00:13:14,127 --> 00:13:15,962 through, like, the school? 296 00:13:16,004 --> 00:13:17,922 Yeah, there's a parent contact list, 297 00:13:17,964 --> 00:13:19,758 and it gets sent out at the start of the year. 298 00:13:19,799 --> 00:13:22,052 And the number from the text matched the number 299 00:13:22,093 --> 00:13:23,762 listed for Ms. Kaminski? 300 00:13:28,350 --> 00:13:30,268 I didn't check. 301 00:13:30,310 --> 00:13:32,270 I thought you had all the parents' numbers in your phone. 302 00:13:32,312 --> 00:13:35,815 I hadn't entered them all in yet, and I-- 303 00:13:35,857 --> 00:13:37,525 I just--I hadn't gotten around to it. 304 00:13:37,567 --> 00:13:39,527 It's by my side of the bed, and... 305 00:13:39,569 --> 00:13:41,654 I'm so tired when I get home, and-- 306 00:13:41,696 --> 00:13:44,240 Yeah, yeah, it's OK. It's OK. 307 00:13:44,282 --> 00:13:47,452 She signed the text "Jenny," so I just--I just assumed. 308 00:13:47,494 --> 00:13:49,704 I assumed it was her. I mean, why wouldn't it be her? 309 00:13:49,746 --> 00:13:50,914 Yeah, it makes sense. 310 00:13:50,955 --> 00:13:52,916 It's OK. 311 00:13:52,957 --> 00:13:55,543 Ma'am, did you ever speak on the phone 312 00:13:55,585 --> 00:13:58,296 to Ms. Kaminski about this playdate? 313 00:14:00,215 --> 00:14:02,300 No, it was all over text. 314 00:14:06,930 --> 00:14:08,264 Mr. and Mrs. Irvine, do you have 315 00:14:08,306 --> 00:14:10,517 a recent picture of your son? 316 00:14:20,652 --> 00:14:22,779 I told you about Marissa, remember? 317 00:14:22,821 --> 00:14:24,739 She's the one I met at the school social. 318 00:14:24,781 --> 00:14:26,741 - Oh, that's right. - She was great. 319 00:14:26,783 --> 00:14:28,159 I really like her. 320 00:14:28,201 --> 00:14:30,495 And God, she just sounded so upset. 321 00:14:30,537 --> 00:14:32,288 It was awful. 322 00:14:32,330 --> 00:14:34,582 She said I texted her about a playdate, but I didn't. 323 00:14:34,624 --> 00:14:37,585 She probably just read it wrong or something. 324 00:14:37,627 --> 00:14:39,129 I don't think so. 325 00:14:39,170 --> 00:14:41,464 It wasn't just Marissa there. There was another woman too. 326 00:14:41,506 --> 00:14:43,967 It seemed like a stranger that was helping her or something. 327 00:14:44,009 --> 00:14:45,176 I'm sure the kid is fine. 328 00:14:45,218 --> 00:14:46,761 He's probably been found by now, 329 00:14:46,803 --> 00:14:48,221 with his grandma or something. 330 00:14:48,263 --> 00:14:49,848 Jesus, I can't imagine the worry. 331 00:14:49,889 --> 00:14:51,766 I'm getting nauseous just thinking about it. 332 00:14:51,808 --> 00:14:53,852 Do you know what makes me nauseous? 333 00:14:53,893 --> 00:14:56,896 Vanilla-flavored vape smoke in the boys' bathroom. 334 00:14:56,938 --> 00:14:58,273 Are you still at school? 335 00:14:58,314 --> 00:15:00,150 You haven't left yet? - Well, I'm not late. 336 00:15:00,191 --> 00:15:01,776 It takes, like, two minutes to get there. 337 00:15:01,818 --> 00:15:03,361 You always say that-- that something takes, 338 00:15:03,403 --> 00:15:04,696 like, two minutes to do. 339 00:15:04,738 --> 00:15:06,489 But what you mean is that it doesn't take long. 340 00:15:06,531 --> 00:15:07,657 Yeah, exactly. 341 00:15:07,699 --> 00:15:09,034 But it doesn't take two minutes 342 00:15:09,075 --> 00:15:10,326 to get to Sarah Larsen's from school. 343 00:15:10,368 --> 00:15:11,411 It takes, like, 15. 344 00:15:11,453 --> 00:15:12,954 What does it matter? 345 00:15:12,996 --> 00:15:15,206 It matters because playdates really help us out, 346 00:15:15,248 --> 00:15:17,000 and being on time for pickup is a big deal. 347 00:15:17,042 --> 00:15:20,587 Honey, no one obsesses over the little details like you. 348 00:15:20,628 --> 00:15:23,048 I'm totally fine. - But the details matter. 349 00:15:23,089 --> 00:15:25,425 They went over all this at the start of the school year. 350 00:15:25,467 --> 00:15:27,218 And we all agreed-- - OK, OK. You're right. 351 00:15:27,260 --> 00:15:29,429 I'm sorry. I'm heading there right now. 352 00:15:29,471 --> 00:15:31,598 I love you. - Love you. 353 00:15:37,103 --> 00:15:38,396 Thank you. 354 00:15:38,438 --> 00:15:39,773 Ah. 355 00:15:39,814 --> 00:15:42,192 Ah! 356 00:15:49,157 --> 00:15:50,158 Hi, Jenny. 357 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:51,409 Hi, Sarah. 358 00:15:51,451 --> 00:15:53,578 I'm stuck at work, but Richie's on his way. 359 00:15:53,620 --> 00:15:55,038 He's just gonna be a couple minutes late. 360 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:57,374 Oh, uh, the boys are watching TV, 361 00:15:57,415 --> 00:15:59,793 which I wouldn't usually put on during a playdate, 362 00:15:59,834 --> 00:16:02,128 but I really had to get my youngest one going in the bath. 363 00:16:02,170 --> 00:16:04,839 I know. I'm really sorry. 364 00:16:04,881 --> 00:16:06,925 You know, and I still have a ton of work to do 365 00:16:06,966 --> 00:16:09,260 on the fundraiser. 366 00:16:09,302 --> 00:16:12,263 Still looking for volunteers. 367 00:16:12,305 --> 00:16:16,267 Um, well, he-- he's just a few minutes away. 368 00:16:16,309 --> 00:16:18,478 Well, yeah, that's good. 369 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:20,146 Boys had a really nice time. 370 00:16:20,188 --> 00:16:21,648 Sarah--Sarah, real quick, by the way, 371 00:16:21,690 --> 00:16:24,150 I got the strangest phone call from Marissa Irvine today. 372 00:16:24,192 --> 00:16:26,111 She thought that Milo was at my house. 373 00:16:26,152 --> 00:16:27,320 Yeah, I know. 374 00:16:27,362 --> 00:16:28,822 She called me too. 375 00:16:28,863 --> 00:16:30,198 She wanted your number. 376 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:32,450 She said that you arranged a playdate? 377 00:16:32,492 --> 00:16:34,369 Yeah, but I didn't. Do you know if everything's OK? 378 00:16:34,411 --> 00:16:35,745 Have they figured it out? 379 00:16:35,787 --> 00:16:38,039 I don't know, but she called again later. 380 00:16:38,081 --> 00:16:40,917 She wanted to know if I had seen Milo at pickup, 381 00:16:40,959 --> 00:16:43,336 so they don't even know who he went home with. 382 00:16:43,378 --> 00:16:44,546 God, she must be so worried. 383 00:16:44,587 --> 00:16:45,964 I really hope it's just a mix-up. 384 00:16:46,006 --> 00:16:47,215 Yeah, me too. 385 00:16:47,257 --> 00:16:48,883 I mean, it does sound a bit, 386 00:16:48,925 --> 00:16:51,344 like, shady with the nanny, doesn't it? 387 00:16:51,386 --> 00:16:52,762 You know, like, child goes missing 388 00:16:52,804 --> 00:16:56,349 on the same day she leaves town? 389 00:16:56,391 --> 00:16:57,475 I mean, I get it. 390 00:16:57,517 --> 00:16:59,185 You know, if you're gonna work, 391 00:16:59,227 --> 00:17:00,812 you'll need help raising your kids, but-- 392 00:17:00,854 --> 00:17:03,523 Yeah, well, if you hear anything, can you let me know? 393 00:17:03,565 --> 00:17:05,900 I'm just worried for Marissa and for Milo. 394 00:17:05,942 --> 00:17:08,111 Yeah, of course. 395 00:17:08,153 --> 00:17:11,740 Hey, and you've probably thought about it already, but-- 396 00:17:11,781 --> 00:17:13,825 What? 397 00:17:15,201 --> 00:17:19,164 Well, if someone did take Milo Irvine, 398 00:17:19,205 --> 00:17:21,166 why would they pretend to be you? 399 00:17:27,547 --> 00:17:30,425 OK, this is the itinerary for the school year. 400 00:17:30,467 --> 00:17:33,261 {\an8}Please take a copy and hand it 'round. 401 00:17:33,303 --> 00:17:34,679 {\an8}There you go. 402 00:17:34,721 --> 00:17:36,848 {\an8}Oh, here you are. 403 00:17:36,890 --> 00:17:38,058 OK. 404 00:17:38,099 --> 00:17:39,392 So welcome. 405 00:17:39,434 --> 00:17:43,480 Welcome, first-time moms... and dads. 406 00:17:43,521 --> 00:17:46,566 Your little ones are gonna have such a great year. 407 00:17:46,608 --> 00:17:49,027 OK, let's have a look through the calendar. 408 00:17:49,069 --> 00:17:54,282 So all of the special events are marked with a star. 409 00:17:56,534 --> 00:17:59,829 Most of them will require costumes or props for the kids. 410 00:17:59,871 --> 00:18:01,706 But we're letting you know in advance, 411 00:18:01,748 --> 00:18:03,917 so there should be plenty of time to prepare. 412 00:18:03,958 --> 00:18:05,502 OK, so take a look. 413 00:18:10,173 --> 00:18:11,800 Uh, Throwback Thursday? 414 00:18:11,841 --> 00:18:13,802 Oh, can you introduce yourself? 415 00:18:13,843 --> 00:18:15,387 We should really get to know one another. 416 00:18:15,428 --> 00:18:19,099 Uh, yeah. Marissa Irvine. 417 00:18:19,140 --> 00:18:20,725 Hi. - Hi. 418 00:18:20,767 --> 00:18:23,687 Yeah, so Throwback Thursdays are new this year-- 419 00:18:23,728 --> 00:18:25,063 super cute. 420 00:18:25,105 --> 00:18:27,190 '80s theme. 421 00:18:27,232 --> 00:18:29,901 It's just, like, a bit of nostalgia. 422 00:18:29,943 --> 00:18:32,737 For who? 423 00:18:32,779 --> 00:18:34,698 Um, it's-- 424 00:18:34,739 --> 00:18:37,701 I don't quite know what you're trying to say. 425 00:18:37,742 --> 00:18:42,539 Uh, just that these kids were born in 2019. 426 00:18:47,127 --> 00:18:48,920 Great. 427 00:18:48,962 --> 00:18:53,466 Any other questions, or can we talk about playdates? 428 00:18:57,929 --> 00:18:58,930 Are you all right? 429 00:19:01,474 --> 00:19:03,309 My English is not so good. 430 00:19:03,351 --> 00:19:04,602 The family, they know me already-- 431 00:19:04,644 --> 00:19:05,770 It's for the school. 432 00:19:05,812 --> 00:19:08,356 They have to cover their bases. 433 00:19:08,398 --> 00:19:10,692 Should we do it together? 434 00:19:10,734 --> 00:19:11,526 Really? 435 00:19:11,568 --> 00:19:13,028 Yeah, if that's OK. 436 00:19:13,069 --> 00:19:14,154 OK, yeah, thanks. 437 00:19:16,656 --> 00:19:18,825 Which one is yours? 438 00:19:18,867 --> 00:19:21,369 Milo Irvine. 439 00:19:21,411 --> 00:19:23,204 Oh, he's a sweet one. 440 00:19:23,246 --> 00:19:25,540 - He is. - Rainbow bubble! 441 00:19:25,582 --> 00:19:27,751 He's perfect. 442 00:19:40,096 --> 00:19:41,348 You and the nanny, Ana. 443 00:19:41,389 --> 00:19:43,016 Did you have any kind of disagreement recently? 444 00:19:43,058 --> 00:19:44,184 No. 445 00:19:44,225 --> 00:19:45,810 No, I--we all get along. 446 00:19:45,852 --> 00:19:47,687 She's great with Milo. I-- 447 00:19:47,729 --> 00:19:49,606 How about your parents? Do they live nearby? 448 00:19:49,647 --> 00:19:51,358 Hi, you've reached Ana Garcia. 449 00:19:51,399 --> 00:19:53,193 Please leave a message. - Damn it. 450 00:19:53,234 --> 00:19:54,569 No. 451 00:19:54,611 --> 00:19:56,529 My dad was never in the picture, and my mom-- 452 00:19:56,571 --> 00:19:57,864 What about your parents? 453 00:19:57,906 --> 00:19:59,741 We don't-- we don't really talk. 454 00:19:59,783 --> 00:20:01,785 She--last I heard she was in Portugal, 455 00:20:01,826 --> 00:20:03,370 but that could have changed. 456 00:20:03,411 --> 00:20:04,537 She wouldn't have taken Milo. 457 00:20:04,579 --> 00:20:05,830 It would have been too much effort. 458 00:20:05,872 --> 00:20:07,540 - I see. - And you live on the premises? 459 00:20:07,582 --> 00:20:09,334 - Uh-- - He's my brother. 460 00:20:09,376 --> 00:20:10,794 Lives in the guesthouse. 461 00:20:10,835 --> 00:20:12,712 You said you have a sister? Does she stay here too? 462 00:20:12,754 --> 00:20:14,547 No, she lives in the city. 463 00:20:14,589 --> 00:20:17,842 She's on her way now. 464 00:20:17,884 --> 00:20:20,303 I feel like we're just talking here. 465 00:20:20,345 --> 00:20:21,805 What's--what's happening? 466 00:20:21,846 --> 00:20:23,765 Detective Alcaras has been assigned to your son's case. 467 00:20:23,807 --> 00:20:25,225 He's headed to the teacher's address 468 00:20:25,266 --> 00:20:27,185 because Mr. Williams isn't answering his cell phone. 469 00:20:27,227 --> 00:20:28,853 That is the best next step we could be taking. 470 00:20:28,895 --> 00:20:30,355 Just--I really need you to promise me 471 00:20:30,397 --> 00:20:32,524 you're doing everything that you can to bring him home. 472 00:20:32,565 --> 00:20:33,900 Please. 473 00:20:33,942 --> 00:20:35,610 Yes, sir. 474 00:20:35,652 --> 00:20:37,445 Thank you. 475 00:20:37,487 --> 00:20:38,697 I don't even remember if I told him 476 00:20:38,738 --> 00:20:41,032 I love him this morning. 477 00:20:43,785 --> 00:20:46,413 Who is texting you? 478 00:20:46,454 --> 00:20:47,914 The clinic. 479 00:20:54,337 --> 00:20:55,380 - Mar. - Hi. 480 00:20:55,422 --> 00:20:58,883 Hey. Oh, Mar. 481 00:20:58,925 --> 00:21:01,011 - Thanks for coming. - Yeah. 482 00:21:06,599 --> 00:21:08,852 Hey. - Hey, man. 483 00:21:08,893 --> 00:21:10,937 Oh, sorry. 484 00:21:10,979 --> 00:21:14,649 Sorry, it's my-- sorry, it's work. 485 00:21:14,691 --> 00:21:15,942 This is Colin. 486 00:21:15,984 --> 00:21:17,944 He's my best friend and business partner. 487 00:21:17,986 --> 00:21:19,279 We'll need to get a statement. 488 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:20,822 Yeah, of course. 489 00:21:20,864 --> 00:21:23,825 Uh, could you just-- could you give us a moment? 490 00:21:23,867 --> 00:21:25,827 Hey. Hey. 491 00:21:25,869 --> 00:21:27,412 This is a huge mix-up, all right? 492 00:21:27,454 --> 00:21:29,080 It's just-- just an innocent mix-up. 493 00:21:29,122 --> 00:21:30,790 Colin, school has been out for hours. 494 00:21:30,832 --> 00:21:31,916 Tell me the innocent mix-up 495 00:21:31,958 --> 00:21:33,293 that would take hours to resolve. 496 00:21:34,544 --> 00:21:35,545 Oh, fuck. 497 00:21:35,587 --> 00:21:38,131 It's, uh--it's-- 498 00:21:38,173 --> 00:21:39,132 it's work. 499 00:21:39,174 --> 00:21:41,301 It's-- it's the Phillips account, 500 00:21:41,343 --> 00:21:42,594 and I don't--I don't have 501 00:21:42,635 --> 00:21:44,095 the bandwidth to deal with it right now. 502 00:21:44,137 --> 00:21:46,139 You know, I'll-- 503 00:21:46,181 --> 00:21:49,726 I'll handle the Phillips account. 504 00:21:49,768 --> 00:21:51,811 - Thank you. - Yeah. 505 00:21:51,853 --> 00:21:54,189 Thanks. One second. 506 00:21:54,230 --> 00:21:56,149 Ana. 507 00:21:56,191 --> 00:21:57,317 She not answering? 508 00:21:57,359 --> 00:22:00,070 No, all afternoon. 509 00:22:06,951 --> 00:22:08,078 Hey. 510 00:22:12,457 --> 00:22:13,667 It's Ana's phone. 511 00:22:13,708 --> 00:22:16,169 - What? - What? 512 00:22:16,211 --> 00:22:17,712 It's Ana's phone. 513 00:22:28,056 --> 00:22:29,808 You're gonna love Jenny. She's great. 514 00:22:29,849 --> 00:22:31,142 She's a real-- - Hi. 515 00:22:31,184 --> 00:22:33,061 - Oh, here she is. - I am so sorry. 516 00:22:33,103 --> 00:22:35,730 Whew! 517 00:22:35,772 --> 00:22:38,566 My husband is in charge of our son tonight, 518 00:22:38,608 --> 00:22:40,527 so it's just little fires. 519 00:22:40,568 --> 00:22:41,695 - OK. - But I'm here now! 520 00:22:41,736 --> 00:22:45,323 So Alex, as--as I'm sure you can guess, 521 00:22:45,365 --> 00:22:47,909 I would love to talk to you about your client, Mr. Logan. 522 00:22:47,951 --> 00:22:49,619 Whoa, he hates Mr. Logan. 523 00:22:49,661 --> 00:22:51,621 Call him Lee. - OK. All right. 524 00:22:51,663 --> 00:22:53,039 OK. 525 00:22:53,081 --> 00:22:54,874 Well, then I would love to talk to you about Lee. 526 00:22:54,916 --> 00:22:56,042 I know that he's been 527 00:22:56,084 --> 00:22:57,794 with the same publisher for years now, 528 00:22:57,836 --> 00:23:00,380 but I would really like him to consider our imprint, 529 00:23:00,422 --> 00:23:02,424 because I think that his marketing strategy is 530 00:23:02,465 --> 00:23:03,717 in need of a complete revamp. 531 00:23:03,758 --> 00:23:05,260 - Mm-hmm. - Right now, every penny 532 00:23:05,301 --> 00:23:07,095 of his advertising is going towards Facebook, 533 00:23:07,137 --> 00:23:08,638 which I totally get the thinking-- 534 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:09,889 his core audience is older women. 535 00:23:09,931 --> 00:23:12,392 But my proposal here, which... 536 00:23:12,434 --> 00:23:14,561 - Thank you. - Brendan hugely helped with, 537 00:23:14,602 --> 00:23:16,938 I want Lee Logan's stories to reach a younger audience. 538 00:23:16,980 --> 00:23:18,565 They can resonate with anyone. 539 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:31,786 Um, sorry. 540 00:23:31,828 --> 00:23:35,540 Very sorry. It's been a scary day today. 541 00:23:35,582 --> 00:23:36,916 Not for me, but for another mom. 542 00:23:36,958 --> 00:23:38,501 There's a child that's missing. 543 00:23:38,543 --> 00:23:40,045 Oh, God, what happened? 544 00:23:40,086 --> 00:23:41,129 Someone picked him up from school, 545 00:23:41,171 --> 00:23:42,380 and no one has seen them since. 546 00:23:42,422 --> 00:23:44,966 But they have a really strict school policy 547 00:23:45,008 --> 00:23:47,427 that the kids can only go with parents 548 00:23:47,469 --> 00:23:48,636 or nannies, so it's-- 549 00:23:48,678 --> 00:23:49,679 Yeah, it's that way for us too. 550 00:23:49,721 --> 00:23:50,764 - Is it? - Yeah. 551 00:23:50,805 --> 00:23:51,765 I mean, that's what my wife said. 552 00:23:54,726 --> 00:23:55,894 Yeah. 553 00:24:01,524 --> 00:24:03,526 Yeah. Actually, you know what, Jenny? 554 00:24:03,568 --> 00:24:05,111 I can--I can take it-- - OK. 555 00:24:05,153 --> 00:24:07,030 It feels like you're needed on the home front. 556 00:24:07,072 --> 00:24:08,656 - Yeah. - Yeah? 557 00:24:08,698 --> 00:24:10,533 OK. Yeah. 558 00:24:10,575 --> 00:24:12,202 I'll be quick. 559 00:24:14,954 --> 00:24:16,539 Hey. - Hi, hon. 560 00:24:16,581 --> 00:24:17,791 Sorry to bother you. 561 00:24:17,832 --> 00:24:19,626 He really wants you. 562 00:24:19,668 --> 00:24:20,669 You got a sec? 563 00:24:20,710 --> 00:24:22,212 Yeah, OK. Uh-huh. 564 00:24:22,253 --> 00:24:23,463 Mommy? 565 00:24:23,505 --> 00:24:24,589 Hi, baby. 566 00:24:24,631 --> 00:24:26,758 Where are you? 567 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:28,760 I want you for bedtime. 568 00:24:28,802 --> 00:24:30,345 - Yeah. - Soon. 569 00:24:30,387 --> 00:24:32,597 I'll be there to tuck you in. Yep. 570 00:24:36,434 --> 00:24:37,769 Talk to Ana. 571 00:24:37,811 --> 00:24:39,729 Uh-huh. Thank you. 572 00:24:47,862 --> 00:24:51,324 Hey, Ana would never hurt him. 573 00:24:51,366 --> 00:24:52,367 She's-- 574 00:25:03,211 --> 00:25:04,754 Do you have him? Where is he? 575 00:25:04,796 --> 00:25:06,047 Where is he? 576 00:25:06,089 --> 00:25:07,090 - You tell us where he is. - What? 577 00:25:07,132 --> 00:25:08,216 - Where is he? - What? 578 00:25:08,258 --> 00:25:09,551 Ana, you gotta tell us where he is. 579 00:25:09,592 --> 00:25:10,844 - What's going on? - Ana! 580 00:25:10,885 --> 00:25:12,178 I don't have Milo. I'm not working this week. 581 00:25:12,220 --> 00:25:14,014 He's not in here. He's not in here. 582 00:25:14,055 --> 00:25:15,348 - I'm not working this week! - What? 583 00:25:15,390 --> 00:25:17,183 I told you, I don't have Milo. 584 00:25:17,225 --> 00:25:19,019 I left my phone. I was coming to get it. 585 00:25:19,060 --> 00:25:20,687 We leave tomorrow morning instead. 586 00:25:20,729 --> 00:25:22,480 What--what happened to Milo? 587 00:25:22,522 --> 00:25:25,358 - We don't know. We don't-- - Mr. and Mrs. Irvine? 588 00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:27,736 Detective Alcaras has spoken with Milo's teacher. 589 00:25:27,777 --> 00:25:31,698 He says Milo was picked up by a woman named Carrie Finch. 590 00:25:31,740 --> 00:25:33,700 Who is Carrie Finch? 591 00:25:37,454 --> 00:25:38,997 I'm Carrie, by the way. 592 00:25:39,039 --> 00:25:40,790 Ana. Nice to meet you. 593 00:25:40,832 --> 00:25:41,875 Nice to meet you. 594 00:25:41,916 --> 00:25:43,543 So who do you work for? 595 00:25:43,585 --> 00:25:44,878 Jenny Kaminski. 596 00:25:48,631 --> 00:25:51,176 What the-- 597 00:25:51,217 --> 00:25:52,302 Richie! 598 00:25:55,138 --> 00:25:56,306 Richie! 599 00:25:59,851 --> 00:26:00,977 - Uh-- - Richie! 600 00:26:01,019 --> 00:26:02,270 Yeah, yeah, um... 601 00:26:32,092 --> 00:26:34,928 - What's wrong? - I'm just being silly. 602 00:26:34,969 --> 00:26:36,930 You OK? 603 00:26:36,971 --> 00:26:37,972 OK. 604 00:26:40,058 --> 00:26:42,644 What can you tell us about your nanny, Carrie Finch? 605 00:26:42,686 --> 00:26:44,562 She's 21. 606 00:26:44,604 --> 00:26:47,732 She's been with us about three months. 607 00:26:47,774 --> 00:26:52,404 She's quiet, shy, sweet. 608 00:26:52,445 --> 00:26:54,406 Has she been acting out of the ordinary lately? 609 00:26:54,447 --> 00:26:55,573 No. 610 00:26:55,615 --> 00:26:57,867 She ever been violent, that you're aware? 611 00:26:57,909 --> 00:26:59,911 Of course not. I would never... 612 00:27:03,373 --> 00:27:05,375 Mrs. Kaminski? 613 00:27:05,417 --> 00:27:07,210 Oh, sorry, it's nothing. Nothing. 614 00:27:07,252 --> 00:27:08,920 Ma'am, anything at all you could tell us 615 00:27:08,962 --> 00:27:10,296 might be more helpful than you realize. 616 00:27:10,338 --> 00:27:11,548 It's just when you said violent, 617 00:27:11,589 --> 00:27:14,050 it made me think of this time that I thought 618 00:27:14,092 --> 00:27:15,802 she was about to hit Jacob. 619 00:27:15,844 --> 00:27:17,303 But it was a total misunderstanding. 620 00:27:17,345 --> 00:27:19,264 I don't even know why I'm saying it. 621 00:27:19,305 --> 00:27:20,348 What? 622 00:27:20,390 --> 00:27:21,933 No, no. 623 00:27:21,975 --> 00:27:24,227 So she attempted to hit your son on at least one occasion? 624 00:27:24,269 --> 00:27:25,895 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. 625 00:27:25,937 --> 00:27:27,230 She was swatting a fly. 626 00:27:27,272 --> 00:27:29,357 I saw her hand go back and I screamed 627 00:27:29,399 --> 00:27:31,151 and grabbed Jacob away from her, 628 00:27:31,192 --> 00:27:32,569 and then I saw the fly. 629 00:27:32,610 --> 00:27:36,239 I was totally mortified. 630 00:27:36,281 --> 00:27:41,036 I am 100% sure that she was swatting a fly. 631 00:27:41,077 --> 00:27:43,413 Swatting a fly. 632 00:27:45,331 --> 00:27:47,709 Mrs. Kaminski, Marissa Irvine received a text, 633 00:27:47,751 --> 00:27:50,003 supposedly from you, arranging a playdate for her son-- 634 00:27:50,045 --> 00:27:51,254 Yeah, but I never sent that text. 635 00:27:51,296 --> 00:27:52,589 We understand that. 636 00:27:52,630 --> 00:27:55,091 However, Carrie Finch then picked Milo Irvine up 637 00:27:55,133 --> 00:27:57,260 from Bishops Academy this afternoon, 638 00:27:57,302 --> 00:27:59,637 and no one has seen either of them since. 639 00:27:59,679 --> 00:28:02,891 So you think Carrie sent the text, pretending to be me? 640 00:28:02,932 --> 00:28:04,267 It appears so. 641 00:28:04,309 --> 00:28:06,102 And now that phone is out of service. 642 00:28:06,144 --> 00:28:09,230 So what, it was like a burner phone, or-- 643 00:28:12,609 --> 00:28:14,110 So this was all planned? 644 00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:29,000 Where the fuck is the detective? 645 00:28:31,586 --> 00:28:33,672 Has anyone ever not noticed your sister entering a room? 646 00:28:33,713 --> 00:28:35,006 What took her so long to get here? 647 00:28:35,048 --> 00:28:36,091 She texted me earlier and said 648 00:28:36,132 --> 00:28:38,218 the Skyway was backed up. 649 00:28:38,259 --> 00:28:41,096 She told me she was coming from her apartment. 650 00:28:42,889 --> 00:28:45,183 - Thanks for coming. - Mm-hmm. 651 00:28:47,602 --> 00:28:49,145 - Hey. - No. 652 00:28:49,187 --> 00:28:51,106 You can't cry. 653 00:28:51,147 --> 00:28:52,315 - Oh. - OK? 654 00:28:52,357 --> 00:28:54,150 I can't handle that. - I'm sorry. Sorry. 655 00:28:54,192 --> 00:28:57,821 Yeah, well, you should be, 656 00:28:57,862 --> 00:28:58,988 'cause this is about me. 657 00:29:01,700 --> 00:29:03,993 Hey. 658 00:29:12,836 --> 00:29:14,170 We're gonna find him. 659 00:29:14,212 --> 00:29:15,672 - Yeah. - OK? 660 00:29:15,714 --> 00:29:16,798 Mm-hmm. 661 00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:18,842 - We are. - Mm-hmm. 662 00:29:18,883 --> 00:29:19,926 Hey, Col. 663 00:29:19,968 --> 00:29:21,553 Hey, Lia. 664 00:29:21,594 --> 00:29:23,179 Hi. 665 00:29:23,221 --> 00:29:25,515 OK, you gotta move your shit, Brian. 666 00:29:29,728 --> 00:29:31,771 OK. 667 00:29:31,813 --> 00:29:33,982 So what exactly do we know? 668 00:29:34,024 --> 00:29:38,194 Well, another nanny picked Milo up from school. 669 00:29:38,236 --> 00:29:39,696 Her name is Carrie Finch. 670 00:29:39,738 --> 00:29:40,655 Nobody's seen him since. 671 00:29:40,697 --> 00:29:42,657 - Do we know this Carrie? - No. 672 00:29:42,699 --> 00:29:46,077 She works for another mom named Jenny Kaminski. 673 00:29:46,119 --> 00:29:47,495 Uh-huh. 674 00:29:47,537 --> 00:29:49,414 And what do we know about Jenny? 675 00:29:51,750 --> 00:29:54,336 I met her at the school social. 676 00:29:54,377 --> 00:29:56,212 She seemed nice. Normal. 677 00:29:56,254 --> 00:29:59,924 Yeah? Well, I want to talk to her. 678 00:29:59,966 --> 00:30:02,093 What? 679 00:30:02,135 --> 00:30:04,220 Just don't-- just don't start, please. 680 00:30:04,262 --> 00:30:05,638 She has a lot to answer for. 681 00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:08,683 Yes, she does, but not to you. 682 00:30:08,725 --> 00:30:10,560 Fine, but somebody needs to probe. 683 00:30:10,602 --> 00:30:12,312 I mean, there had to have been warning signs. 684 00:30:12,354 --> 00:30:13,646 We don't know that. 685 00:30:13,688 --> 00:30:15,315 Well, normal, well-adjusted people 686 00:30:15,357 --> 00:30:17,400 don't just kidnap children. 687 00:30:17,442 --> 00:30:19,194 I mean, do we know if she even checked references? 688 00:30:19,235 --> 00:30:20,528 Christ! 689 00:30:20,570 --> 00:30:22,781 Just please, I'm asking you, once-- 690 00:30:22,822 --> 00:30:25,241 OK. Hey, hey, she's not wrong, OK? 691 00:30:25,283 --> 00:30:27,911 Look, if this is even remotely true, 692 00:30:27,952 --> 00:30:32,082 then Jenny Kaminski is legally negligent. 693 00:30:32,123 --> 00:30:34,376 This would ruin her life. 694 00:30:34,417 --> 00:30:36,211 She'd be to blame. 695 00:30:54,562 --> 00:30:56,523 It's so important to set that example. 696 00:30:56,564 --> 00:30:58,483 Boys need to see a father make dinner, 697 00:30:58,525 --> 00:31:00,110 do the dishes, the laundry. 698 00:31:00,151 --> 00:31:02,570 We have to counterprogram our kids. 699 00:31:02,612 --> 00:31:04,364 Victor's a stay-at-home dad. 700 00:31:04,406 --> 00:31:05,699 Oh, OK. So you don't work? 701 00:31:05,740 --> 00:31:07,534 No, I made a commitment to home life. 702 00:31:07,575 --> 00:31:08,868 Isn't that incredible? 703 00:31:08,910 --> 00:31:10,245 I wish my husband was that modern. 704 00:31:12,247 --> 00:31:13,665 What a lucky boy you have. 705 00:31:13,707 --> 00:31:15,542 Oh, we have two, actually. 706 00:31:15,583 --> 00:31:17,460 Not the same as one, trust me. 707 00:31:17,502 --> 00:31:18,962 One is one. 708 00:31:19,004 --> 00:31:20,380 Two is ten. 709 00:31:22,632 --> 00:31:25,885 Now, you just have Jacob, right? 710 00:31:25,927 --> 00:31:27,178 Right. 711 00:31:27,220 --> 00:31:28,680 OK, so we need to talk fundraiser. 712 00:31:28,722 --> 00:31:29,806 Oh. 713 00:31:29,848 --> 00:31:31,224 - Fundraiser? - For the school. 714 00:31:31,266 --> 00:31:32,851 I head it up every year, 715 00:31:32,892 --> 00:31:36,980 but I couldn't do it without volunteers. 716 00:31:37,022 --> 00:31:39,107 OK. Volunteering for what, exactly? 717 00:31:39,149 --> 00:31:40,275 Booking venues, 718 00:31:40,316 --> 00:31:42,068 organizing food, music, stuff like that. 719 00:31:42,110 --> 00:31:43,987 It's kind of an unspoken thing, 720 00:31:44,029 --> 00:31:47,073 but parents with just one child help the most. 721 00:31:47,115 --> 00:31:50,410 You know, so that it's fair to the other parents. 722 00:31:50,452 --> 00:31:54,497 So can I count you in? 723 00:32:28,365 --> 00:32:30,200 Uh, what are the chances? 724 00:32:30,241 --> 00:32:33,953 Oh, my God! 725 00:32:33,995 --> 00:32:35,497 Wow, I-- 726 00:32:35,538 --> 00:32:37,165 It looks so much better on you. 727 00:32:37,207 --> 00:32:38,166 No, it does not! 728 00:32:38,208 --> 00:32:39,292 You look amazing. 729 00:32:39,334 --> 00:32:40,627 We both look stunning. 730 00:32:40,669 --> 00:32:42,921 But I--I haven't worn this dress in forever. 731 00:32:42,962 --> 00:32:44,047 That's so weird. 732 00:32:44,089 --> 00:32:46,174 Yeah, me neither, actually. 733 00:32:46,216 --> 00:32:47,967 I feel like I've seen you around a bunch of times, 734 00:32:48,009 --> 00:32:50,011 but I've never actually-- I'm Marissa. 735 00:32:50,053 --> 00:32:51,513 - I'm Jenny. - Hi. 736 00:32:51,554 --> 00:32:53,473 Your son is in Mr. Williams' class too, right? 737 00:32:53,515 --> 00:32:55,475 Yeah, Jacob. Yours is-- 738 00:32:55,517 --> 00:32:56,434 - Milo. - OK. 739 00:32:56,476 --> 00:32:59,437 Yeah. 740 00:32:59,479 --> 00:33:01,439 So weird. 741 00:33:06,486 --> 00:33:07,654 You OK? 742 00:33:12,409 --> 00:33:14,953 Yeah? 743 00:33:14,994 --> 00:33:16,371 You know what? 744 00:33:16,413 --> 00:33:17,664 I didn't actually come in here to pee. 745 00:33:17,706 --> 00:33:19,457 I just had to escape from out there. 746 00:33:19,499 --> 00:33:22,085 It's just so intense. - It is. 747 00:33:26,297 --> 00:33:28,091 If I brought back two glasses of wine, 748 00:33:28,133 --> 00:33:29,634 what would you think? 749 00:33:29,676 --> 00:33:30,885 - I'd love it. - Yeah? 750 00:33:30,927 --> 00:33:33,138 - Yeah. - OK. 751 00:33:33,179 --> 00:33:34,305 - OK. - Let's do that. 752 00:33:34,347 --> 00:33:35,890 OK. 753 00:33:39,561 --> 00:33:40,937 Peter is the king of tickle time. 754 00:33:40,979 --> 00:33:42,355 You know, he gets down on the floor, 755 00:33:42,397 --> 00:33:45,150 and he makes forts out of pillows, 756 00:33:45,191 --> 00:33:47,027 and he's great at that stuff. 757 00:33:47,068 --> 00:33:49,237 But when it comes to everything else 758 00:33:49,279 --> 00:33:51,031 like pickups and drop-offs 759 00:33:51,072 --> 00:33:54,826 and doctor's appointments, you know, lunches, 760 00:33:54,868 --> 00:33:57,746 snacks, clothes, activities, shoes, 761 00:33:57,787 --> 00:33:58,997 he just doesn't see it. 762 00:33:59,039 --> 00:34:01,666 It's not on his radar. 763 00:34:01,708 --> 00:34:03,668 Probably shouldn't trash my husband 764 00:34:03,710 --> 00:34:05,211 in the women's bathroom. 765 00:34:05,253 --> 00:34:06,713 Classy, right? 766 00:34:06,755 --> 00:34:10,425 Well, I call Richie 767 00:34:10,467 --> 00:34:12,677 a motherfucker to his face sometimes, so... 768 00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:14,721 What? 769 00:34:14,763 --> 00:34:17,307 And he-- he doesn't even know it. 770 00:34:17,349 --> 00:34:19,392 How does he not know? 771 00:34:19,434 --> 00:34:21,227 I-- 772 00:34:21,269 --> 00:34:26,566 I tried to learn sign language before Jacob was born. 773 00:34:26,608 --> 00:34:28,902 There was a mom in my prenatal class 774 00:34:28,943 --> 00:34:31,237 who was hearing impaired, and I just thought that I-- 775 00:34:31,279 --> 00:34:32,405 I don't know. 776 00:34:32,447 --> 00:34:34,407 Anyway, I didn't make it very far, 777 00:34:34,449 --> 00:34:38,078 but I did master a few of the curse words. 778 00:34:38,119 --> 00:34:41,748 So one day, Richie and I were fighting, 779 00:34:41,790 --> 00:34:43,541 and Jake was in the room, so I couldn't 780 00:34:43,583 --> 00:34:45,085 say anything too awful. 781 00:34:45,126 --> 00:34:46,544 Mm. 782 00:34:46,586 --> 00:34:50,965 And so I made the sign for motherfucker. 783 00:34:52,175 --> 00:34:53,802 Oh! 784 00:34:53,843 --> 00:34:57,555 And he thought that I was saying I love you, 785 00:34:57,597 --> 00:35:00,183 like, to end the fight. 786 00:35:00,225 --> 00:35:01,643 And I just--I never-- 787 00:35:01,685 --> 00:35:04,270 I never corrected him. 788 00:35:04,312 --> 00:35:07,023 So I do it-- 789 00:35:07,065 --> 00:35:08,942 I do it now when-- 790 00:35:08,983 --> 00:35:12,570 when he tells me that I'm amazing. 791 00:35:14,447 --> 00:35:17,826 Oh, yeah. 792 00:35:17,867 --> 00:35:19,494 I don't know how you do it all. 793 00:35:19,536 --> 00:35:21,871 You're so amazing. 794 00:35:21,913 --> 00:35:23,707 Right? - Yeah. 795 00:35:26,501 --> 00:35:28,169 I'm tired of being amazing. 796 00:35:31,006 --> 00:35:32,424 I don't want to be amazing anymore. 797 00:35:41,683 --> 00:35:44,477 But I am apparently volunteering 798 00:35:44,519 --> 00:35:45,687 for a fundraiser now, so... 799 00:35:45,729 --> 00:35:48,690 No. No. Sarah Larsen got to you? 800 00:35:48,732 --> 00:35:50,191 Yeah, I buckled. 801 00:35:50,233 --> 00:35:52,736 Well, you're not volunteering for the fundraiser. 802 00:35:52,777 --> 00:35:54,446 Well, I already said yes. 803 00:35:54,487 --> 00:35:56,781 Pretty sure a verbal contract isn't considered binding. 804 00:35:56,823 --> 00:35:59,743 Well, what am I supposed to do, then? 805 00:35:59,784 --> 00:36:01,536 Well, first you need to pose 806 00:36:01,578 --> 00:36:02,704 for a selfie with me, because-- 807 00:36:02,746 --> 00:36:03,955 OK. 808 00:36:03,997 --> 00:36:05,248 This has got to be documented. 809 00:36:05,290 --> 00:36:06,666 Yeah, it does. 810 00:36:06,708 --> 00:36:09,169 And then we will inform Sarah Larsen 811 00:36:09,210 --> 00:36:11,629 that you do not have time to volunteer 812 00:36:11,671 --> 00:36:13,548 for the fundraiser. 813 00:36:13,590 --> 00:36:15,592 - I can't do that. - You won't have to. 814 00:36:15,633 --> 00:36:17,218 I'll do all the talking. I'll be there. 815 00:36:17,260 --> 00:36:19,721 On one condition-- you don't backpedal, 816 00:36:19,763 --> 00:36:21,973 because she will bring up the fucking fundraiser. 817 00:36:22,015 --> 00:36:23,391 Oh, God! 818 00:36:23,433 --> 00:36:25,518 Yeah, she will just let the silence hang in the air. 819 00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:27,020 But no backpedaling, OK? 820 00:36:27,062 --> 00:36:28,480 - I promise. - All right. 821 00:36:28,521 --> 00:36:30,231 Now, smile. 822 00:36:35,070 --> 00:36:36,696 I can't believe we're in the same-- 823 00:36:36,738 --> 00:36:37,906 I know. It's insane. 824 00:36:49,250 --> 00:36:51,544 Can they do this? Can they just search her room? 825 00:36:51,586 --> 00:36:53,004 I don't know. 826 00:36:53,046 --> 00:36:54,381 I guess. 827 00:36:54,422 --> 00:36:56,383 This is the only picture that I have of Carrie. 828 00:36:56,424 --> 00:36:58,802 It's not that great. 829 00:36:58,843 --> 00:37:02,013 This is so surreal. 830 00:37:02,055 --> 00:37:04,099 If she did this, then-- - She did do it. 831 00:37:04,140 --> 00:37:07,394 She picked him up from school. - Well, then it's our fault. 832 00:37:07,435 --> 00:37:08,978 We hired her. 833 00:37:09,020 --> 00:37:10,897 We're the reason she has access to the school. 834 00:37:10,939 --> 00:37:12,232 If she wanted to kidnap someone, 835 00:37:12,273 --> 00:37:16,069 she would have found a way with or without us. 836 00:37:16,111 --> 00:37:17,612 Still. 837 00:37:17,654 --> 00:37:21,074 Do you think we should go see them? 838 00:37:21,116 --> 00:37:22,575 What? No! 839 00:37:22,617 --> 00:37:25,954 Jenny, you don't want to signal that we're responsible. 840 00:37:25,995 --> 00:37:27,872 What if they think we're negligent or something? 841 00:37:27,914 --> 00:37:29,332 There's a five-year-old kid missing, 842 00:37:29,374 --> 00:37:31,459 and you're worried about distancing yourself from blame? 843 00:37:31,501 --> 00:37:33,003 Listen to me. 844 00:37:33,044 --> 00:37:34,379 This is the kind of thing that, in your mind, 845 00:37:34,421 --> 00:37:36,464 sounds like a great idea 'cause you're a kind person. 846 00:37:36,506 --> 00:37:38,008 That's what I love about you. 847 00:37:38,049 --> 00:37:39,509 We can't just hide here with our own son safe and sound. 848 00:37:39,551 --> 00:37:40,844 It doesn't feel right. 849 00:37:40,885 --> 00:37:42,804 But months down the road, you'll regret this. 850 00:37:46,307 --> 00:37:50,603 Whatever you do, don't apologize for anything. 851 00:38:32,187 --> 00:38:34,939 Mr. and Mrs. Irvine, I'm Detective Alcaras. 852 00:38:34,981 --> 00:38:36,316 Detective Greco. 853 00:38:36,358 --> 00:38:37,317 May we come in? 854 00:38:37,359 --> 00:38:38,360 Yeah, of course. 855 00:38:45,075 --> 00:38:47,827 99% of the time when a child goes missing, 856 00:38:47,869 --> 00:38:52,165 it's a misunderstanding between parents, grandparents, nannies. 857 00:38:52,207 --> 00:38:55,418 But Milo has been missing for nearly five hours now. 858 00:38:55,460 --> 00:38:57,337 It's not a misunderstanding. 859 00:39:00,173 --> 00:39:02,592 In addition, we found your son's tracker 860 00:39:02,634 --> 00:39:03,927 in the school's parking lot. 861 00:39:03,968 --> 00:39:07,472 It's been destroyed. 862 00:39:07,514 --> 00:39:11,393 OK. 863 00:39:11,434 --> 00:39:13,019 Is this about a ransom? 864 00:39:13,061 --> 00:39:14,854 We haven't received any communication 865 00:39:14,896 --> 00:39:17,232 regarding a ransom. 866 00:39:17,273 --> 00:39:20,193 I'm assuming none of you have either? 867 00:39:20,235 --> 00:39:21,695 - No. - Any missed calls 868 00:39:21,736 --> 00:39:23,113 from unknown numbers? 869 00:39:23,154 --> 00:39:25,824 Or strange texts, emails, that kind of thing? 870 00:39:25,865 --> 00:39:27,117 No. 871 00:39:27,158 --> 00:39:28,660 Look, this has to be about money, right? 872 00:39:28,702 --> 00:39:31,663 I mean, why else would-- 873 00:39:31,705 --> 00:39:35,375 look, you two are well-off, sure. 874 00:39:35,417 --> 00:39:37,961 But more than that, you're both in finance, 875 00:39:38,003 --> 00:39:39,713 which means you both have access to capital 876 00:39:39,754 --> 00:39:40,880 far greater than your own. 877 00:39:40,922 --> 00:39:42,882 People, a kidnapper, Carrie... 878 00:39:42,924 --> 00:39:44,134 - Uh-huh. - Would know that. 879 00:39:44,175 --> 00:39:46,803 Ms. Garcia, you're Milo's nanny, right? 880 00:39:46,845 --> 00:39:48,471 Yes, I look after Milo. 881 00:39:48,513 --> 00:39:50,765 Have you ever spoken with Carrie Finch? 882 00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:54,394 Um, no. 883 00:39:54,436 --> 00:39:58,106 I--I've seen her, but we've never talked before. 884 00:40:05,238 --> 00:40:08,241 I have a picture here of Carrie Finch. 885 00:40:08,283 --> 00:40:10,744 I'd like you all to please have a look. 886 00:40:15,582 --> 00:40:17,834 I--I don't recognize her. 887 00:40:20,337 --> 00:40:21,463 Sorry. 888 00:40:24,966 --> 00:40:28,720 No, I've never seen her. 889 00:40:34,017 --> 00:40:36,394 So she has my son? 890 00:41:11,054 --> 00:41:15,475 So if this is a ransom, when do we hear? 891 00:41:15,517 --> 00:41:18,478 It's usually within the first 24 hours, 892 00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:21,898 but there's no exact rules to these kind of things. 893 00:41:24,442 --> 00:41:26,736 And if they don't want anything-- 894 00:41:26,778 --> 00:41:29,155 if, uh--if it's not-- 895 00:41:29,197 --> 00:41:30,990 it's not about money-- - No. 896 00:41:31,032 --> 00:41:33,243 They don't want anything, then, uh-- 897 00:41:33,284 --> 00:41:34,536 Please, please don't. 898 00:41:34,577 --> 00:41:39,207 - I have to know. - Don't. Please don't ask. 899 00:41:39,249 --> 00:41:44,629 It's about a pedophile, or it's human trafficking. 900 00:41:57,017 --> 00:41:58,393 Hey. 901 00:41:59,936 --> 00:42:02,522 Sorry. 902 00:42:02,564 --> 00:42:04,858 Why didn't you just check the number? 903 00:42:04,899 --> 00:42:07,068 You just check it, OK? 904 00:42:07,110 --> 00:42:12,699 It's--he's-- 905 00:42:12,741 --> 00:42:15,201 'cause he's fucking out there. 906 00:42:15,243 --> 00:42:17,704 He's out there now. 907 00:42:22,250 --> 00:42:25,128 I'm sorry. I didn't mean that. 908 00:42:27,922 --> 00:42:30,717 I'm sorry. I'm sorry. 909 00:42:30,759 --> 00:42:33,845 I didn't mean that. 910 00:42:33,887 --> 00:42:35,388 You're a great mom. 911 00:42:35,430 --> 00:42:36,890 You're great, OK? 912 00:42:36,931 --> 00:42:38,850 You're amazing. 913 00:42:38,892 --> 00:42:40,101 You are amazing. 914 00:42:44,522 --> 00:42:46,358 Hey, listen to me. Listen to me. 915 00:42:46,399 --> 00:42:47,776 I'm-- 916 00:43:08,797 --> 00:43:10,882 I'm so sorry. 917 00:43:10,924 --> 00:43:13,551 I'm so sorry. 918 00:43:13,593 --> 00:43:15,595 I'm so sorry. 919 00:43:48,837 --> 00:43:50,213 This is Jenny Kaminski. 920 00:43:53,675 --> 00:43:55,301 She's my friend. 921 00:44:05,478 --> 00:44:07,147 {\an8}She brought a lawyer with her? 922 00:44:07,188 --> 00:44:10,608 {\an8}- Yeah. - Hmm. 923 00:44:10,650 --> 00:44:13,069 {\an8}My money says she talks. 924 00:44:13,111 --> 00:44:15,905 Milo's kidnapping was an inside job. 925 00:44:15,947 --> 00:44:18,825 She knows that we know that, and she's gonna want to get 926 00:44:18,867 --> 00:44:20,994 ahead of it, clear her name. 927 00:44:21,036 --> 00:44:22,662 Yeah, but if she starts talking, 928 00:44:22,704 --> 00:44:25,832 she has to keep talking, even if we don't ask her 929 00:44:25,874 --> 00:44:27,667 about the kidnapping anymore. 930 00:44:27,709 --> 00:44:31,004 You know, I honestly didn't see this coming. 931 00:44:31,046 --> 00:44:35,633 These nice people, 932 00:44:35,675 --> 00:44:37,135 killing each other.